Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

[sparcboxbuck]

I've got some doctor appointments, etc. scheduled through next week, don't want any vaccine side effects for these appointments or the Maryland game. I'll be getting the booster dose in a couple weeks.

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Nope.. didn't work.

 

[ScriptOhio]

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Nope.. didn't work.

I've got some doctor appointments, etc. scheduled through next week, don't want any vaccine side effects for these appointments or the Maryland game. I'll be getting the booster dose in a couple weeks.

Got the Pfizer booster early this morning (i.e. 8 hours ago); so far no side effects.

 

[DubCoffman62]

All those simple carbs (bread, potatoes, spirits) are just candy bars to the body. And responding to the other post, plenty of non obese people have heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, and liver disease. And again, all I’m saying is that a bad diet is every bit as bad for you as smoking cigarettes.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2018/06/the-shocking-amount-of-sugar-in-a-baked-potato.html

I wouldn't encourage anyone to take up smoking but I've known many more old "smokers" than I have old obese people. Just in recent years I've known at least 5 obese people that have died in their sleep

 

[ScriptOhio]

I noticed on my Medicare statement:

1) 1st COVOD-19 vaccination shot....Amount provider charged $64.00, amount approved by Medicare $16.19, amount paid by Medicare $16.19, amount that I owe $0.00

2) 2nd COVOD-19 vaccination shot....Amount provider charged $106.00, amount approved by Medicare $26.78, amount paid by Medicare $26.78, amount that I owe $0.00

Anybody have any idea why the 2nd shot costs more than the 1st shot? They were basically the exact same shot. Yeah, I know, a lot of the stuff that the government does just doesn't make sense. I'm curious as to what my 3rd shot cost.

 

[BayBuck]

I noticed on my Medicare statement:

1) 1st COVOD-19 vaccination shot....Amount provider charged $64.00, amount approved by Medicare $16.19, amount paid by Medicare $16.19, amount that I owe $0.00

2) 2nd COVOD-19 vaccination shot....Amount provider charged $106.00, amount approved by Medicare $26.78, amount paid by Medicare $26.78, amount that I owe $0.00

Anybody have any idea why the 2nd shot costs more than the 1st shot? They were basically the exact same shot. Yeah, I know, a lot of the stuff that the government does just doesn't make sense. I'm curious as to what my 3rd shot cost.

Looks like the booster should be about $40

https://www.cms.gov/medicare/covid-19/medicare-covid-19-vaccine-shot-payment

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

Anyone seen any data on those that have died that were vaxed...
are there stats on which vaccine they rcvd? is there a trend?

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

Anyone seen any data on those that have died that were vaxed...
are there stats on which vaccine they rcvd? is there a trend?

found this
5. The death rates as of Aug. 15 were nearly 13 per 100,000 among unvaccinated people, 3 per 100,000 for J&J recipients, about 1.4 per 100,000 for people who got Pfizer's shot, and 0.69 per 100,000 for Moderna recipients.

from here:
https://www.beckershospitalreview.c...-deaths-by-vaccine-type-5-things-to-know.html

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

THANK YOU @AuTX Buckeye

 

[Oh8ch]

I wouldn't encourage anyone to take up smoking but I've known many more old "smokers" than I have old obese people. Just in recent years I've known at least 5 obese people that have died in their sleep

Pretty much every smoker I worked with was dead within 10 years of retirement. Could be the old tobacco was just more dangerous, but you aren't going to separate me from my Twinkies with your baseless lies.

 

[DubCoffman62]

Pretty much every smoker I worked with was dead within 10 years of retirement. Could be the old tobacco was just more dangerous, but you aren't going to separate me from my Twinkies with your baseless lies.

I know this is anecdotal but my father started smoking when he was 14 and he's almost 80 and still kicking while his brother who never smoked but drank 10-12 Dr Peppers a day died of congestive heart failure when he was 55. Neither habit is conducive to good health.

 

[heisman]

I know this is anecdotal but my father started smoking when he was 14 and he's almost 80 and still kicking while his brother who never smoked but drank 10-12 Dr Peppers a day died of congestive heart failure when he was 55. Neither habit is conducive to good health.

Not only anecdotal, but uncommon. Without an underlying condition (typically atherosclerosis), heart failure is typically just a measure of left ventricular ejection fraction being under 50% (55-60% healthy range) that can usually be improved by lowering blood pressure. Dr. Pepper's sodium content is next to nothing, so it probably wasn't a significant factor in elevated blood pressure. Now, if he had diabetes, then that would be an entirely different story.

 

[jwinslow]

found this
5. The death rates as of Aug. 15 were nearly 13 per 100,000 among unvaccinated people, 3 per 100,000 for J&J recipients, about 1.4 per 100,000 for people who got Pfizer's shot, and 0.69 per 100,000 for Moderna recipients.

from here:
https://www.beckershospitalreview.c...-deaths-by-vaccine-type-5-things-to-know.html

Using the above:

Unvaccinated death rate, how many times more likely to die than vaccinated (by flavor)

4.4x more than J&J
9.9x more than Pfizer
18.8x more than Moderna

It's troubling on both ends. It's quite ineffective at preventing breakthrough cases or transmission, which then leads to the other team disbelieving it and not wanting to participate, which snowballs quickly in terms of efficacy.

 

[DubCoffman62]

Not only anecdotal, but uncommon. Without an underlying condition (typically atherosclerosis), heart failure is typically just a measure of left ventricular ejection fraction being under 50% (55-60% healthy range) that can usually be improved by lowering blood pressure. Dr. Pepper's sodium content is next to nothing, so it probably wasn't a significant factor in elevated blood pressure. Now, if he had diabetes, then that would be an entirely different story.

I always thought diabetes and heart failure went hand in hand. He probably did have type 2 diabetes, we weren't real close and I saw him maybe twice after I turned ten. He did have to have his teeth pulled as they rotted out from all the sugar he consumed. The thing is he was an active guy, he was a contractor, worked hard, was a big sports fisherman, used to reel in those blue marlins down in Cabo San Lucas. You seem to be 1000-10,000 times more knowledgeable on the subject though so I shall concede that I'm talking out my ass.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I noticed on my Medicare statement:

1) 1st COVOD-19 vaccination shot....Amount provider charged $64.00, amount approved by Medicare $16.19, amount paid by Medicare $16.19, amount that I owe $0.00

2) 2nd COVOD-19 vaccination shot....Amount provider charged $106.00, amount approved by Medicare $26.78, amount paid by Medicare $26.78, amount that I owe $0.00

Anybody have any idea why the 2nd shot costs more than the 1st shot? They were basically the exact same shot. Yeah, I know, a lot of the stuff that the government does just doesn't make sense. I'm curious as to what my 3rd shot cost.

Haven't seen this thread for quite a while so that why I'm replying over 3 weeks after your post. I got my first shot on Apr 27th and my second on May 18th. The first shot was an absolute nothing...no pain during the shot or anytime after it. I also had absolute zero effects from it. The second shot was different...not way different, not noticeably different. It hurt when the shot was given, and the shot site was slightly painful for about 24 hours. I also had a slight fever for a day or so. So, I'd guess that the second shot was more potent than the first...it had to be, like the first was a "prep" shot for the second. Still, absolutely zero side effects from either shot.

 

[DubCoffman62]

Haven't seen this thread for quite a while so that why I'm replying over 3 weeks after your post. I got my first shot on Apr 27th and my second on May 18th. The first shot was an absolute nothing...no pain during the shot or anytime after it. I also had absolute zero effects from it. The second shot was different...not way different, not noticeably different. It hurt when the shot was given, and the shot site was slightly painful for about 24 hours. I also had a slight fever for a day or so. So, I'd guess that the second shot was was potent than the first...it had to be, like the first was a "prep" shot for the second. Still, absolutely zero side effects from either shot.

Same here, got the moderna, first shot, nothing, second made me feel bad the next day but after that no side affects.