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Maybe the Browns are like the Broncos of the early 2000s…put someone back there and they can get 1000 (hello Olandis Gary)
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Absolutely. Playing with a shoulder that dinged up is risky as hell. Honestly, you have four very winnable games ahead of you (Stillers, @Bungles, @ Corpse of the Patriots and the frickin’ Lions). I’d sit him for as long as I can and let Keenum play out tonight’s script and hope that’s enough to win. If Keenum is absolutely pissing it away, but Baker back in and hope some rest helped.
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When you have RBs performing like Chubb, Hunt and Johnson... salute the line.
Johnson was showing some incredible drive last night, but he was also inspiring that extra effort from the trenches.
Johnson was showing some incredible drive last night, but he was also inspiring that extra effort from the trenches.
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This game was won by Stefanski... great calls... seemed to know exactly what Denver was doing on every play...
Loved the TE screen right thru Von Miller
Loved the TE screen right thru Von Miller
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Buckeneye
I lead, you follow.
Really doesn't speak well to our starting QB then.
SIR! That's just "Silly" talk.
I'm genuinely not trying to be a dick on this particular post. But if you want to get at me and have a real, in-depth numbers, X's & O's talk... I'm all for it.
However....
Baker 2021 season averages
67% comp
245.66ypg
1td pg
.5 INT pg
8.5 YPA
12.7 Y/C
7.13 NY/A
Case Keenum 2021 season average
61.1% comp
205 ypg
1td pg
0int
5.7 YPA
9.7 Y/C
5.41 NY/A
One game in, and with some pretty shitty weather on a short week, CK has duplicated 85% of what Baker does and did it without a turnover. Yes, I'm well aware they were playing the Broncos and an assortment of
other variables that can and should be factored in. But if Keenum comes out and has a steady game against Pittsburgh then.... shucks.
I'd at least appreciate your acknowledgement that I'm not completely out of my tree and might be spot on. Your acceptance that, while I'm not a "fan" of Baker, I have no ill will towards him would also be cool.
To the contrary, I so very much want him to be a franchise QB. So if we're going to have a conversation about him possibly being one, or the future of the position for the Browns, that's going to require a good bit of honesty.
If Case gives me 85% of what Baker gives me at less than half the cost, then I can't justify spending $25+mil a year on the latter. And THAT, is the primary concern here.
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I'm not sold that Baker Mayfield is a true franchise qb... yet. But, the faux qb controversy is some dumb shit. CK can't give this team what Baker can over the course of a season and sure as hell doesn't have future potential; he's proven that over the last several years. What we found during last night's game is that our WR's are playing hurt, or just aren't that good at getting open consistently. If the running game can continue to dominate, it won't matter. If Landry can get healthy, OBJ can get to average, and DPJ can continue to improve, the passing game will be good enough to support the running game; that's all that's really needed. Baker doesn't need to be Brees' level to get a solid contract as a starting QB for this team. But he definitely needs to be healthy and a bit more consistent, which is very feasible and worth investment, given the alternative. If he doesn't, there's no way Keenum leads this team deep into the playoffs.
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NorthCoastKid
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If the Browns are left to start Keenum the rest of the season, they'd be lucky to even make the playoffs at all.
Gotta hope that shoulder gets cleared by the docs quickly. And this is coming from a fellow Mayfield skeptic. But he gives this team way better of a shot game-to-game than Keenum.
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