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The Buckeyes may be playing the Bearcats in basketball next year.

The Ozone has this:
November 22, 2005 7:20 PM
Men's Basketball: The Buckeyes play Thad Matta's Alma Mater, Butler, tonight in what was originally scheduled as a home-and-home series.
The-Ozone has learned that there has likely been a change of plan on that return date.
OSU's date with Butler was scheduled for the same dates as the Wooden Tradition basketball event in Indiana. That event currently has booked Purdue and Cincinnati, and now it appears that Ohio State and Butler will round out the four-team field for that tournament.
As it is now planned, OSU will meet Cincinnati and Butler will meet Purdue in that event.
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11/24/05

Here is the free article.....

UC says OSU's ahead
But Buckeyes say '06 basketball matchup not yet finalized


The University of Cincinnati is convinced it will play Ohio State in basketball next season, on Dec. 16, 2006, in the Wooden Tradition at Indianapolis' Conseco Fieldhouse.

But Ohio State officials aren't quite ready to acknowledge the game is a done deal, even though all indications are that it will be played.

It would be the first meeting for the two schools since UC knocked off Ohio State for the national championship March 24, 1962.

UC athletic director Bob Goin said the promoter of the Wooden Tradition approached the Bearcats about playing the event next season.

"They asked us if we had some interest," Goin said after UC announced that the game will be played. "They said, 'If you'll play, we'll try to get Ohio State.' When they said that it would definitely be Ohio State, that they agreed to it, that's when I said we ought to do it."

Ohio State coach Thad Matta declined to comment on the game Wednesday through OSU spokesman Dan Wallenberg.

"There's no contract to play that game," Wallenberg said. "Thad told me it's possible, but it's not something we're ready to talk about."

Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith could not be reached, but he told the Columbus Dispatch that if the game does happen, it won't be a one-time occurrence. He said the schools could start a home-and-home series and possibly move the game to other venues in the state.

He said he and Matta first discussed playing UC in April.

"We did not anticipate we would get to scheduling them this fast," Smith said. "The initiative came to us. We thought we'd get to it a couple years from now when our programs are rolling. But (the Wooden people) came to us and we said, 'Why not?' It makes total sense."

Ohio State just started a four-year contract with Butler and is scheduled to play the Bulldogs in Indianapolis next season.

Wallenberg said the Buckeyes would have to get out of that game to make the Wooden Tradition feasible.

"It's not a done deal," Wallenberg said of the UC game. "That's not to say it won't happen. We have a contract, but it's not signed."

Kent Atherton of Pantheon International, which organizes and promotes the Wooden Tradition, through a spokesman also declined to comment until the contract is signed.

The Buckeyes want to play in Indianapolis because it's the hometown of 7-foot center Greg Oden, the centerpiece of Ohio State's recruiting class - one of the top classes in the country.

The Bearcats upset heavily favored Ohio State 70-65 in 1961 to win the national championship, then beat the Buckeyes 71-59 the following season to win UC's second consecutive NCAA title.

The two schools, separated by about 100 miles, haven't played in basketball since.

Goin said he hopes this game will begin to improve relations between the schools when it comes to basketball.

"This is an opportunity for that ice to start to melt," he said. "It seems like there's been a thawing of their position."

Goin said he tried for years to get Ohio State to play UC while Andy Geiger was the OSU athletic director.

"He just said, 'We're not ready for that; we're not good enough,' " Goin said.

The Buckeyes appear to be ready now. With the influx of next year's class, OSU will be primed to move back onto the national stage in Matta's third season on the job.

UC, on the other hand, doesn't even know who its coach will be next season and could field a lean roster because recruiting largely has been put on hold.

The Bearcats are being coached on an interim basis by Andy Kennedy and will lose five seniors off this season's team.

"We have a chance to play Ohio State and we have a chance to do it at a neutral site," Goin said. "Everybody has always wanted to play Ohio State. This answers that question.

"Are we as healthy as I'd like us to be at that time? I don't know that. I have no idea. But when opportunity knocks, you either say yes or no. It's a game that I think is good for college basketball."
 
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11/27/05

November 24, 2005

Ohio State dumps Butler but will play at Conseco

Greg Oden might not play a college basketball game at Hinkle Fieldhouse after all.

But he's likely to play an Indianapolis homecoming game.

Oden, a 7-foot Lawrence North High School center, will be an Ohio State freshman next season. Organizers are expected to announce that Ohio State will meet Cincinnati in the Wooden Tradition on Dec. 16, 2006, at Conseco Fieldhouse.

Consequently, Ohio State is dropping next season's visit to Butler. Ohio State had scheduled that game to allow Oden to play in his hometown.
The Bulldogs' compensation is a game against Purdue in the other half of the 2006 Wooden doubleheader.

Ohio State and Cincinnati haven't met since the 1962 NCAA championship game, which the Bearcats won 71-59.

Ohio State officials could not be reached for comment. Butler, Purdue and Cincinnati would not confirm the Wooden pairings. The Cincinnati Enquirer's Web site reported the Ohio State-Cincinnati pairing Wednesday.

-- David Woods
 
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I'm so excited about this possibility. The teams I dislike the most in college sports are Notre Dame football and Cincinnati basketball. Getting to play (and beat) both programs in a one-year span would be special.
 
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12/14/05


In-State Rivalries Highlight Wooden Tradition Lineup For 2006


Wooden Tradition welcomes the first Ohio State vs. Cincinnati matchup since the 1962 national title game


Dec. 14, 2005
INDIANAPOLIS - Pantheon International, founder and producer of the annual John R. Wooden Tradition, presented by Warsteiner, has announced a blockbuster lineup for next season's men's basketball doubleheader, featuring four regional universities. Ohio State and Cincinnati will meet on the basketball hardwood for the first time since the NCAA Championship Game of 1962, and state rivals Butler and Purdue will collide while completing another attractive field in the Wooden Tradition. The seventh-annual Wooden Tradition is scheduled for Saturday, Dec. 16, 2006, in Conseco Fieldhouse at Indianapolis, Ind.

The highlight of the event pits Ohio State and cross-state rival Cincinnati - a pair of nationally-prominent programs that have not played since the 1962 NCAA National Championship game when UC beat Ohio State, 71-59, to cap a run of back-to-back national championships. In 1961, UC also beat OSU in the title contest, claiming a 70-65 overtime victory. Separated by less than 100 miles, both programs have been regional and national contenders throughout their histories, but have not met in over 40 years. They have met only eight times in history. Their last regular season meeting was Dec. 10, 1921.

"We strive to create the type of competitive matchups that you would expect to see at the Final Four," said Kent Atherton, Pantheon's President & CEO. "Once in a while that means you also have the opportunity to create a game with some historical significance. Ohio State vs. Cincinnati is such a game."

While Cincinnati and Purdue are repeat participants in the Wooden Tradition, Ohio State and Butler will appear for the first time. In a college basketball doubleheader that honors the legend of one of the game's greatest coaches, it is another coach that helps bring the Buckeyes and Bulldogs to the Wooden Tradition.
Second-year Ohio State coach Thad Matta, a Butler alum and former head coach, will coach in the Wooden Tradition for the second time, himself. Matta led Xavier to a near-upset of Indiana during the 2003 Wooden Tradition. In 2006, he is expected to be joined by Buckeyes freshmen Greg Oden and Mike Conley, a pair of highly-touted recruits from Indianapolis' Lawrence North High School.

Like Ohio State, the Bulldogs will appear in the prestigious doubleheader for the first time. Coached by Todd Lickliter, a former Matta assistant and his Butler successor, Butler will become the fourth university from Indiana to participate since the Wooden Tradition's inaugural season in 2000.


Purdue, for whom Wooden was a three-time All-American from 1930-32, has appeared in every Wooden Tradition except in 2003, when Indiana made its lone appearance.

An advance order form is available online at woodentradition.com or ConsecoFieldhouse.com. Ticket prices range from $10 to $125, and include both games of the doubleheader.

Established in 2000, the John R. Wooden Tradition is an annual tribute to the legendary former coach and the excellence he personifies. Similar to the standards established by the Wooden Classic, its California-based sibling founded in 1994, the event hosts college basketball's premier programs.

The Wooden Tradition is a celebration of the game of basketball and the activities benefit Special Olympics Indiana. The 2006 John R. Wooden Tradition Golf Tournament will be held on Sept. 26 at Prairie View Golf Club, the John R. Wooden Coaches Dinner will be held on Nov. 25 at The Westin Indianapolis.
Pantheon International is a privately held sports marketing & event management firm that own event properties in California, Indiana, New York and Florida. Pantheon specializes in providing unique corporate marketing platforms through its high profile sports events. The company is a niche leader at originating and producing marquee live sports entertainment that create powerful bonds between corporations and the passionate affinity groups that permeate sports.
 
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Hmmmmm, OSU schedules UC soon after Huggins leaves and UC's program is down?

It does make you wonder. Thanks Bucks for scheduling UC when they were down. Could it be even more obvious?

No wait, I forgot, your AD hated our coach. That's a good reason to not continue the long/anticpated rivalry. Yipppeee, I'd give anything to face OSU when UC was actually better than they will be next year.
 
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Hmmmmm, OSU schedules UC soon after Huggins leaves and UC's program is down?

It does make you wonder. Thanks Bucks for scheduling UC when they were down. Could it be even more obvious?

No wait, I forgot, your AD hated our coach. That's a good reason to not continue the long/anticpated rivalry. Yipppeee, I'd give anything to face OSU when UC was actually better than they will be next year.

Actually wasn't it Huggins who didn't want to play Ohio State.
 
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12/16/05


OSU-Bearcats? It's time
By Larry Phillips
Gannett News Service


PERRYSVILLE -- Larry Siegfried knows the Ohio State-Cincinnati rivalry as few others do. He's played in it.
As a starter on an undefeated Buckeye team that fell to the Bearcats in the 1961 NCAA title tilt, the game cost him a second consecutive national championship. The following year, after Seigfried graduated, UC again beat Ohio State in the NCAA final, and the Buckeyes took their ball and went home for the next 44 years.

So, Siegfried, a former All-Ohioan at Shelby and All-American at Ohio State, understood the implications when in-formed the two would renew hostilities next season, Dec. 16, 2006, during the Wooden Tradition. The game will be played at a neutral site, Conseco Fieldhouse in Indianapolis, and effectively end a 44-year Cold War. "When I was in school it was a rivalry, a big rivalry," Sieg-fried said. "Unfortunately, after we lost those two championships, I think it became an administrative thing. I don't know, maybe they were concerned about the fans not handling it right.


"It's not the same though. Without (Bob) Huggins down there, Cincinnati has its own problems. I don't know that beating them now will mean anything."

It would've meant everything to the Buckeyes had they been able to come up with a win in either the 1961 or 1962 NCAA championship games.

The first of those contests was played in Kansas City. It was Siegfried's senior year and Ohio State was undefeated and ranked No. 1 in the nation. They were heavily favored to stay that way when they ran into an inspired Bearcats team and dropped a stunning 72-65 overtime decision.

"Our club was in a fog, we just couldn't get untracked," Siegfried said. "They had everything to gain and nothing to lose.

"Ed Jucker was a good coach, a good tactician and some of the strategy moves he made took away our strengths."

According to Siegfried, one of those moves was stationing Cincinnati guard Ron Bonham on the perimeter to draw his defender, Ohio State's John Havlicek, away from the basket, where he was an excellent rebounder alongside Jerry Lucas.

"We had more talent, a lot of firepower. We had five guys that could shoot the basketball," Siegfried said of a team that featured himself, Lucas, Havlicek and Mel Nowell. "It's pretty tough when you go undefeated all that way, get to the finals and get beat at the end.

"That was a bad scene in Kansas City ... I sure would've liked to have played them again."

Siegfried graduated, but Lucas, Havlicek and Nowell returned the following year, along with Bob Knight and the rest of a talented senior class. The entire season was pointed at gaining revenge against the Bearcats.

It looked as though that script would play out, too. But when Lucas injured his knee in the NCAA semifinals, he was nowhere near normal form in the title game. As a result, the second-ranked Buckeyes were no match for top-ranked Cincinnati, and fell 71-59.

Since then the two schools have not been on speaking or playing terms when it comes to basketball.

"It became a turf war," Siegfried said. "Ohio State wants to be considered the top program in Ohio and when Huggins was down there, they didn't know if they could beat him.

"Now with these new kids they're getting from Indianapolis (7-0 center Greg Oden and 6-1 Mike Conley) they're ready to play them."

Siegfried said meeting Cincinnati won't be nearly as much fun without Huggins on the sidelines.

"It's kind of sad. If you're going to play somebody like that, you want them at their best," Siegfried said. "I don't think they're going to be at their best.

What would've been interesting would've been to play against Huggins."
A former Ohio State assistant, Huggins rejuvenated the struggling Bearcat program in the 1990s and turned UC into a national power.

Early in his tenure, the two programs competed for the signature of Cincinnati prep star Damon Flint. OSU won the recruiting battle, but lost the war when it was hit with NCAA violations involving his recruitment. Flint ended up in Cincinnati and many in Columbus believe it was Huggins who blew the whistle on the Buckeyes.

To this day he vehemently denies that charge. That stoked the fires of what had become a bitter non-rivalry. Former Ohio State athletic director Andy Geiger absolutely refused to schedule Cincinnati, claiming such a game would overshadow the Buckeyes' Big Ten schedule.

Still, it appeared the two would meet in the 1992 NCAA semifinals in Minneapolis. Unfortunately, the Buckeyes fell in overtime to Michigan, a team that dumped Cincinnati in the Final Four.

The scenario was repeated in 2000. It looked as though Ohio State would play the Bearcats in a Sweet 16 game in Texas. But No. 1-ranked UC lost center Kenyon Martin to an injury and dropped a second-round contest. Ohio State was upset by Miami (Fla.) on the same day and another chance was gone.

Since then, both schools have changed coaches. Jim O'Brien's lawsuit continues to drag on and Huggins, a born and bred Ohioan, was forced out this past offseason. Geiger is also out of the picture.

Hence, when the Wooden people came calling, Ohio State finally answered.
"It will be an important game," Siegfried said. "For recruiting, it's a turf war. But it would've been more interesting to play them at full strength."

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I remember multiple times Huggins saying that he would play OSU anytime, anywhere. He said that they didn't want a game, and from the sound of his voice, he wasn't too concerned one way or the other.

New AD at Ohio State + No Huggins at Cincy = Ohio State-Cincinnati Basketball matchup.


It does make you wonder. Thanks Bucks for scheduling UC when they were down. Could it be even more obvious?

See above. There's your reason. It wouldn't matter if the Bearcats were up, we'd still play them because we have a new AD who will embrace an in-state rivalry. And it's gonna be a good one.
 
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