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I do not think any of the Qb's are really worth the fourth pick, there are too many other solid options. Trading back would be a great option if the situation presented itself. I think that the QB they like is Carr but I could also see them not taking one at all.

Why don't you like Mack? Can never have too many pass rushers and if Krueger does not have a bounce back year he could easily be cut after this year.

Because there are a billion options that are better than taking someone for pure entertainment value.

Have had my macbook pro since 08 been through a lot in my college years just had to replace hard drive about a year ago, no other issues.

I agree, I do not prefer my QB to be reckless especially the amount of talent TP had, not to mention his level of talent compared the rest of QB talent we had on the roster. Just stating that occasionally he could have ran a few people over. And back to Torrance, he is a special talent, if he...

Agree with everything but the toughness, he shied away from contact especially at full speed, stiff arm and speed amazing, toughness not so much. Look at someone like Cam Newton he is similar size player and he would straight run people over at Auburn.

Kids got potential.... haha.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/03/new_cleveland_browns_donte_whi.html#incart_river Maybe the culture in that locker room can finally be turned around. I'm optimistic that this team may finally be heading in the correct direction.(It will probably be ended with epic failure, but...

Watkins at 4 or trade down is my stance on this draft currently. Takes pressure off of Flash Gordon, takes pressure of whoever is throwing the rock, and in the unfortunate event that Flash is caught smoking the reefer or doing any other drugs it is a great insurance policy.

Leadership and toughness of D. Jackson but a much better 3-4 backer than what Jackson is.

Hearing the Browns are targeting Karlos Dansby at linebacker, he is older but is a great MLB in a 3-4. Possibly looking at Arthur Moats as well. A lot of buzz about Donte still and outside chance we could go after Byrd as well. The Revis rumors are intriguing but I don't know how you add a...

Chills! Love being a buckeye.

It was a serious question.

What about on the shoulder? Or at least on an alternate ?

come on put the elf or the dog on the helmet!

He is looking svelte.

First spring practice, lets not get ahead of ourselves, they have almost two months to get better then learn from those mistakes, improve over the summer, then once again improve more during fall camp. There is a lot of learning to do, new coach, with new scheme, please breathe, things take time.

I bolded that because it was more in reference to buckeneye saying that same exact thing after me. Honestly, I like Carr and his arm talent but have not really watched him enough to know if he would be worth that second first or not(not saying he will be there but if he was). I won't be upset if...

I'm not super high on any of these qbs period. Might be a solid starter or two out of the whole group but no put the team on their back and carry them like a super star. Manziel is the only one with that potential but he has a lot to learn and to prove to ever come anywhere near that and like I...

I'm not totally against the idea of Manziel but he does carry a very high bust potential. I'm on board with taking the absolute best players available and going from there. If you draft Watkins at 4 or another good reciever with the second first rounder I think Hoyer can do enough to manage the...